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Post by jediwarrior on Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:14 pm

do you like doin forms/katas and how important are they to you?.


Me personally like doin my forms and learning the movements and learning how they work and also where and how to strike or block. Also the stances and the spiritual side

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Post by jediwarrior on Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:14 pm

howdy
i think they are absolutely cruial , i teach some modern martial arts which don't use form and set , and some trad that do ,
i spose it's down to what the student wants , i can teach some one basic self defence or a combat sport without , but if i have a student that wants to understand then it's a must , it is difficult to teach principle and concept without , the thing is even learning a technique for self defence is a form , any repedative motion used to teach a style is .
90% of us are stylists , by this i mean we learn a style with all it's strength and weaknesses , mostly without question .
so to do this , to learn the motion , rythme , style, it is paramount.


ya see i even confuse myself lol

but to answer the question LOL yes i do biggrin.gif

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Post by jediwarrior on Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:14 pm

When I first began training in martial arts, I thought katas were pointless, this was mainly due to a poor instructor in the style (wado ryu).
Now I feel that they are a good training tool, providing that the instructor explains what the movements are for.

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Post by jediwarrior on Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:14 pm

I think you always need somewhere to start, either traditional or modern.

You always slip into henka (variation) when in shinken gata (real sword movments) but you need to have a starting point.

I think the kata always give us a good starting point, allowing us to take whatever path we choose, but we are always able to come back to the same starting point.

I have often seen classes taught very badly as there was no direction or even point in what was being practiced.

I usually show a form, then let myself wander with it till you reach a point were you say 'Lets start again and go in another direction!'

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Post by jediwarrior on Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:15 pm

forms are are the basis of all martial arts u got various strikes, stances, foot work and blocks. Then there is cordination between hand and feey also timing. I know in kung fu that timing and cordanation are a really big part.

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Post by jediwarrior on Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:15 pm

I think forms will always help when that dreaded question is asked of any instructor..........

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'What if.................??????????



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Post by jediwarrior on Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:15 pm

what if is always goin to be asked and then its down to your interpretation of the move and counter

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Post by jediwarrior on Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:15 pm

move and counter....

'What if he does this?'

Alternative move and counter....

'but what if he does this?'

another move and counter.....

etc, etc,etc ... LOL

I usually say..hit him hard enough and there are no 'What if's!' cool.gif

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Post by jediwarrior on Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:16 pm

also further to this i find that your forms are the base and ground work of any martial art ie stances, co-ordination, speed, timing, posture and most of all techinque. All these asr important in forms

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Post by jediwarrior on Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:16 pm

there is one main point , are they fun ..... do you enjoy them .........
do they help...........
otherwise whats the point .....
at the end of the day we do these art because we love them , enjoy being a part of it .
99% of people trainning will never use what they learn .
so the main point is , do they give you something .

just another point of view perhaps :-) lol

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Post by jediwarrior on Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:16 pm

I was drilled forms and kata when i was young and i just havent got the love I should for them.

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Post by jediwarrior on Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:16 pm

Well i like my forms and enjoy doing them and doing them in in different ways. I also alter doing them between doing the slow and then doing them fast. or just doin them with just hands then doin them just feet. I like to aler and finds ways of altering them. i also practice them oppersite side of the body which hard

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